The .35 Whelen is a necked up medium bore wildcat cartridge that was created by necking up a .30-06 Springfield case which is famously overpowered for the 30-caliber bullet it propels. From a 12 twist bore, accuracy sweet spots for light bullets include 2950fps with 180 grain bullets, 2925fps with 200 grain bullets, before normalizing with 225 grain bullets at 2900fps. The body of the .350 Magnum measures 0.517 inches at the base, smaller than the 0.589-inch base of the .416 Rigby. This standard (.30-06) length magnum cartridge drives a 250 grain bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2799 fps with 4350 ft. lbs. Frankly, I would not want to be without them. Follow along to see exactly how. I have long been something of a .35 caliber fan, but I have to admit that I believe the reason for the general lack of public acceptance of all but the least powerful .35's is, in a word, recoil. 10 GA. loaded with a 180-grain Oryx bullet to the .358 Norma Mag. Mag. That list, by the way, is in ascending order of power. Somehow, years ago, I got the notion that it is not prudent to be opening the bolt face of a 700 from standard (270W) to magnum (358N). But perhaps youre not after thick-skinned dangerous game. The .45-70 is another very popular cartridge. Compare the .308 Winchester and the .358 Winchester, which are based on the same case, and the .358 wins hands down. lbs. So are the .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. However, the small bore cartridges from .24 to .32 caliber have proven quite reliable on these smaller animals, so I am not going to argue that anyone needs a .35 to hunt CXP2 class game. Of the three, only the .358 Norma has not become a standard chambering. For anyone with an experimental or fanciful turn of mind, the .358 Norma and the many .358-inch diameter bullets are a gold mine. Mark Bansner is making one for me: synthetic stock on a left-hand Sako action. Kynoch was a big producer of .350 ammo, but that has ceased in the recent past. Today we have better bullets than when I was a kid. They truly were ahead of their time, as they were short magnums back when being a short magnum wasnt cool. Shaw rifle's 24-inch barrel.. offered the performance level of the .358 Win. Sadly, my favorite bullet diameter, the .35 caliber, doesnt even rate a blip on the American shooters radar screen. Mag. The .350 can drive a 250 grain bullet to a MV of 2500 fps. As a result of all this activity, .358-inch diameter jacketed rifle bullets are available in a wide range of weights and styles, from 150-grain semipointed to 200- grain roundnose, all the way up to 310 grains for the heaviest game. On those gray, moody November days when I am feeling blue I take my Remington Model 141 pump-action rifle in .35 Rem. The bullet went in behind the near shoulder, struck the far shoulder from the inside, and the blue bull hit the ground with a thud. On the other hand, you must hit it well, because if poorly hit, an elk shows strength and stamina and may cover many miles of tough country. Looking for previous installments of our "Behind the Bullet" series? And with modern powders and loads, it knocks on the door of the .300 WSM and .300 Winchester Magnum. The .35 Caliber Cartridge Family(.357 Mag., .35 Remington, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Rem. There is only .007-inch (seven thousandths) difference between the .270s .277-inch bullet and the 7mms .284-inch bullet. In 1987 Remington made an honest cartridge out of the .35 Whelen. It is easy to forget that the .358 bore comes in an extremely varied range of twist rates from 1:16 to 1:12. That does not mean that any gunsmith who had his own ideas about velocity and accuracy might not include it or go completely the other way. I have no experience with the Norma mag. My 35 Whelen will run 250gr partitions at 2700 fps with power pro 2000 powder. Sure, we experiment a bit with other bore sizes, but in the end it always comes back to the .30 caliber. Movement is more random in big country. The writings of Robert Ruark certainly helped the reputation of the cartridge and the company, as Ruark put his young PH Harry Selby and the .416 Rigby rifle he carried on a pedestal. Subscriber Services. Among my own favorites for the .358 Norma are the Nosler Partitions in both 225 and 250 grains, Swift A-Frames (225, 250, 280) and various Woodleighs, including the unique 310-grain Weldcore. Tried and true. Contributor Brad Fenson takes to the grill, to cook up some delicious venison burgers. My 8mm Remington Magnum was stocked in dense walnut and had a long barrel. After ten years of not getting drawn I sold it it was too much gun for most of my hunting. Kevin Steele stops by the Taurus booth to speak with Cody Osborn about the all new Raging Hunter platform from Taurus International. With cast bullets, A-5744 and Trail Boss are usually the best choices, although H-4895 is a good powder for midvelocity hunting loads. Too bad Ingemar Johansson was not so well equipped. An elk is bigger than anything most deer hunters have encountered, but theres still a variance; a cow for the freezer isnt much bigger than a very large deer, but a mature bull elk is different. is on the threatened list, this one is on a path to extinction. Loved by gun guys and rejected by the huddled masses, this is perhaps the most underappreciated cartridge of them all. The barrel is a full 22 inches, like it always should have been, but the foolish design with the huge shark fin front sight turned hunters off, and it was dropped. Federal loads the 225-grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2600 f.p.s. with a 250-grain Oryx bullet-both with a 200-yd. I wont be ashamed to take it elk hunting, but today Im certain that level of power is not essential. They are a little short initially and after two firings they were just fine. cases. G. Joined: Sep 2009. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? Meanwhile, the .358 Norma fizzled, for lack of a better term, because rifles were not readily available, ammunition was expensive and hard to get, and it found itself in direct competition with one of the great American cartridges of the twentieth century, Winchesters .338 Magnum. In the entry on the .358 Norma, it maintains that, had Norma convinced a major American riflemaker to offer the chambering in the early years, it could have become one of the greats. If we compare the .300 Win. 358 Norma runs 250gr partitions at 2810 with Norma 204 powder. of muzzle energy. factory load is a 250-grain Oryx bullet listed with a muzzle velocity of 2723 f.p.s. plowed fresh ground. You can never lead if you always follow; the other cartridges were designed to chase Winchesters success, while the .35 Rem. That is quite a few cartridges considering that there is not a single best selling rifle cartridge in the bunch. In cartridges, as in boxing, what goes on behind the scenes often determines the outcome. The .350 Remington Magnum is the only cartridge that appears on both lists of current and obsolete calibers. The .358 Norma Mag. Powders such as IMRs Trail Boss, Accurates 5744 and IMRs discontinued SR-4759 all work with lighter bullets, and sometimes accuracy is very good, even if the gas seal is not. Its spawn, the .351 Winchester Self Loader, fared a little better, but it was never in danger of greatness. Any listing you find for H-4895 can be modified by loading only 60 percent of the published minimum to create some very comfortable loads. Your rifle is your most important hunting tool, and knowing how to properly clean and store it when hunting season comes to a close is critical in keeping it in tip-top shape. Every time I use it I ask myself, Whats not to like? Beats me, but nobody liked it enough to keep it in production. Maybe it's a regular BDL? Elk bullets must be tough enough to provide adequate penetration. They have almost all abandoned the cartridge. Mag. Essentially the .338 Winchester Magnum necked up to hold .358-inch bullets, the .358 Norma Magnum made all sorts of sense to a hunter in pursuit of large game, such as elk, moose and the great bears of the north. .50 BMG. The rivalry between the .338-inch and .358-inch bore diameters has a considerable history; both topped out at 300 grains (at one point in time in history), and both have a lower end of 180 grains. Remington loads a 200-grain PSP Core-Lokt bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2775 f.p.s. I believe it never will. So when it comes to penetrating thick hide and heavy bone, one could see where the .350 Rigby could benefit from a heavier bullet, say a premium 250-grain with a SD of .279. In the years since, the .35 Rem. Today, rifles can be made very light, but that can also be overdone because light rifles are whippy and hard to control when youre out of breath and have to settle in for a quick shot. but it does have the 22" barrel and the irons , looks and feels like a MTN rifle to me. Since then, I have often recommended medium bores, such as Elmer Keiths favorite .33s, and Ive used the 8mm Remington Magnum a lot. So, if you have an interest in carrying an ultra-rare cartridge of impeccable pedigree, you either roll your own or have someone load it for you. The .35's are just plain superior for CXP3 class game. Heres a look at 10 of the most flexible long-range hunting cartridges. The norma would cost more if I had to open the bolt face. Its safe to say that of all the .358 Norma Magnum rifles in existence, there are more custom than factory ones, and this makes it tricky to load for in another way. Even so, most experienced deer hunters have pretty good ideas on appropriate rifles. It shoots well and is light and easy to carry while hunting. Honestly, Ive taken as many elk with the .30-06 as with any other cartridge, and the farthest at 350 yards was no problem. from my E.R. Not necessarily top dollar everything. was initially chambered in Remingtons Model 8 autoloader, soon followed by the Model 14 pump-action. The nearest of any to the .358 Norma was the .35 Newton, which it closely resembles. Today the .35 caliber family, at least in North America, includes the .357 Magnum, .35 Remington, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. For more specialized uses, Speer makes a 180-grain flatpoint (semispitzer)that, with reduced loads, turns the .358 Norma Magnum into a pussycat for recoil but is easily capable of handling game such as black bears and white-tailed deer out to 250 yards or so. Mag.-all with a bigger, heavier bullet that will punch a bigger hole and penetrate deeper. Everybody agrees that the .358 Win. Also H&R 1871, Inc., offered single-shot rifles in .35 Whelen from 1994 to 1996. Heres a look at 10 of the most flexible long-range hunting cartridges. We've got you covered. .450 Nitro Express .17 Hornet 7mm STW 6.8 Western .375 Ruger .223 Remington6.5x55 Swedish .416 Remington Magnum .300 Winchester Short Magnum 28 Nosler 6.5 PRC .22 WMR .458 Winchester Magnum .204 Ruger .22 Hornet .280 Ackley Improved .240 Weatherby Magnum .458 Lott.264 Winchester Magnum.348 Winchester.33 Nosler.260 Remington.30-30 Winchester.416 Rigby.358 Norma Magnum.22 LR7mm-08 Remington8mm Remington Magnum.338 Federal.224 Valkyrie.338-06 A-Square9.3x62mm Mauser.257 Weatherby Magnum.45-70 Government.300 H&H Magnum.25-06 Remington.30-06 Springfield6.5 Creedmoor.300 Remington Ultra Magnum7mm Remington Magnum.470 Nitro Express.280 Remington.300 Winchester Magnum.270 Winchester.222 Remington.45 ACP.404 Jeffery.44 Remington Magnum.41 Remington Magnum.243 Winchester.338 Winchester Magnum.357 S&W Magnum6.5-284 Norma8x57 Mauser.38 Smith & Wesson Special7x57mm Mauser9mm Luger.35 Whelen.454 Casull.375 H&H Magnum.45 Colt.22-250 Remington10mm Auto.308 Winchester. The softpoints were used for the various antelope species, dangerous cats and even buffalo, while the full-patch, non-expanding solids would be used on elephant. and the .32 Win. That being said, with much wider availability, and the higher . Essentially a .338 Magnum with a bigger mouth, the .358 Norma can push 250-grain bullets faster. I rely on, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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They include both the AccuBond and the Partition 225-grain bullets with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. The ammunition hung on a while longer, but eventually Big Green abandoned her babies and stopped making both cartridges. The 250-grain .358-inch bulletwith a sectional density of 0.279if properly constructed, has enough length to handle the brown bear and bison, and all of the African plains game species, plus lion and leopard. Why the public abandoned it so quickly is a mystery to me. With such a variety of bullets, you would think the skys the limit in terms of different loads, but there are other factors to consider. 358 norma mag is a rarer bird but as I understand fire forming 300 win mag brass an easy way to feed it. was included in that party is a mystery, as it had no Winchester counterpart. For the one perfect all-around elk rifle, Im not sure you can beat the good old .30-06. Sometimes you get a point-blank shot; other times you need to stretch it a bit farther. Your rifle is your most important hunting tool, and knowing how to properly clean and store it when hunting season comes to a close is critical in keeping it in tip-top shape. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. Here in North America big game starts with deer. With its spitzer-pointed bullets, the .358 is a good medium- to long-range cartridge with capabilities out to 250 yards on big game. It is, as you say, a thumper. Mention the Rigby name to any rifle aficionado, and odds are that the famous .416 Rigby cartridge will come quickly to mind, and with good reason; it is an undeniable classic. Nosler has three loads in its Custom line. Mag. I am not into the current long-range fad, especially on powerful animals like elk. The Remington Model 600 Magnum rifle, along with the cartridge it birthed, was just such a product. The .357 Magnum revolver cartridge has also gained considerable popularity as a combination rifle/pistol cartridge and lever action rifles for the .357 Magnum sell pretty well. One can almost hear the echoes of Norma Mag. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. The 358 Norma is a sure mag round, but expensive ammo and brass. Folks who live in elk country may consciously seek a cow for the freezer. Trust me, you could do worse, but youll be hard-pressed to do better! Right now, I think that the Browning BLR lever-action rifle is the only production gun left on the market in .358 Win. So while some of my rifle choices may have been oddball, none of the rifles Ive used for elk have been exactly wrong. The Hornady Superformance load for the .35 Whelen launches a 200-grain bullet at a blistering. Around eight pounds set to go is a good compromise. I think Jack OConnor, the great champion of the .270, would agree. I'm sending my 270 tikka off to JES rebore to get it punched out to 35 whelen. Have a .350 Rem Mag, building a .358 Win currently, would prefer to do the .358 Norma if possible but not sure if this action can handle it.Anyone? It is very accurate, easy to carry and fast on the target. This is comparable killing power to the long .375 H&H Magnum with a 300 grain bullet (ME 4331 ft. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Reloading Centerfire Ammunition: Tips For Getting Started, Shooting and Loading the 6.8x43 mm Rem. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The .35 Whelen is accurate, hits hard, penetrates deep, shoots flat and recoils mildly. The .358 Norma Magnum is a rifle cartridge introduced in 1959 by Norma. To reach the .300 mark, youd need a 270-grain bullet (the North Fork and Woodleigh bullets come immediately to mind), but stabilization becomes an issue in the slower twists, and thats long been a problem in .35-caliber barrels. I will go with the 35 Whelen BUT 9.3x62 will be cool due that you already have a 350 Rem mag, if you're opening the bolt face the 358 STA better option than Norma and 338-06 could be a nice choice too. .500 Nitro Express. It put an exclamation point on that lung shot. None of this can be said for either the .338 Winchester Magnum or the .375 H&H. And the hunter must have full confidence in his or her choice. The cartridge would be championed by Denys Finch Hatton (of Out of Africa fame), John Pondoro Taylor and Pete Pearson, and would be used by Baron Bror von Blixen-Fineke as well. Can Coolers | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. The 338/06 when compared to the .35 Whelen only beats it with the lighter bullets and not by much. I did kill a ton of squirels with pistol bullets and a little 700X, it would shoot little cloverleafs at 50 yrds. All rights reserved. Either of the other two cartridges mentioned will work just fine also. I have one, of course, and it is fun to shoot, but I would never use it on a serious big-game hunt. A 358Norma is a good fit for this action. So if you have a .375 (or larger) and a yen to take it elk hunting, be my guest. Blocker Outdoors Finisher gloves, headcovers and other accessories are available in Mossy Oak Bottomland and Mossy Oak Obsession NWTF camouflage patterns to match various turkey hunting terrain. In the 80s, when Jack Carter was making his Trophy Bonded Bearclaw bullet by hand, I did some elk hunting with the 240-grain .375 version. Mag. Looks like I'll do a Whelen. You know the kind with the locking bolt. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Not only that, many different bullet moulds were made for casting .358 bullets in some of the most fanciful shapes. Let's also compare the .358 with the other end of the spectrum. This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. Food for thought, is it not? 35 Whelen. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. Copyright 2003, 2012 by Chuck Hawks. In addition, for stopping the big predators of the world, it's hard to beat a suitable .35 caliber rifle. I have needed to reach 400 yards, but never a whole bunch farther. Honestly, the concept of being overgunned is somewhat mystifying to me, provided you can place the shot. I'd go with the 35 whelen. The .350 Magnum has a case length of 2.742 inches, and an overall cartridge length 3.44 inches, so it will feel at home in a magnum-length receiver. Common loads fire a 200-grain bullet at 2,800 fps (about 3,480 foot pounds of energy), a 225-grain bullet at around 2,600fps (3,380 foot pounds of energy . Moderate, safe, bland and predictable. Included in that have been a whole bunch of deer, hogs and a bear or two. I shot my first bull elk in Montanas Pioneer Mountains on a snowy Thanksgiving in 1972. Mag. exlcusive user. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. Between the .25s and the .35s are dozens of cartridges that are versatile and suitable. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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